Count the number?

Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Many people have tried to calculate the number of the beast. Using many different methods no one yet has been verifiably been able to calculate the name. Honestly when I hear of people trying to figure the name I kind of chuckle to my self. Look at what the verse says though the writer explicitly encourages them that have understanding to count the number of the beast.

A man by the name of Tim Cohen has been trying to do just that. Author of "Antichrist and a cup of tea". The way he does it is through the Cabalic numbering system.

What is the Cabalic(Gematria) numbering system? It originates from the Old Hebrew way of counting, each letter has a value that can be added up.



So why use this number system? Well the main reason is because the verse says to calculate the number of his name, how else do you calculate a number of someone’s name without using this method? Secondly the actual number is calculated in gematric.


Taken from the Greek in Rev 13:18 for 666.

χξς (refer to the chart above)
chi xi stigma
used as numbers; denoting respectively 600, 60 and 6; 666 as a numeral: - six hundred threescore and six. - Strongs

Heres who Tim Cohen has come up with so far.

P r i n c e
70 90 9 50 3 5
C h a r l e s
3 8 1 90 30 5 100
o f
60 6
w a l e s
0 1 30 5 100

In Gematric the total equals 666

Tim Cohen says what Hebrews chiefly call Prince Charles of Wales in the press converted into Hebrew which (3 words not 4) actually converts to 666 as well. As you have probably guessed the probability of this happening is very slim 1 in 10 to the 50 is the estimated probability. That’s a 1 with 50 zeros behind it. Tim states that Prince Charles of Wales is the only person in history to fit this number.

Tim also does a biography on Charles which seems to even further connect Prince Charles to the beast.

Heres a link to his book at Amazon.com Antichrist and a Cup of Tea (Paperback) I have not read it yet but If you are interested investigate. I might get it sometime email me and tell me what you think of it if anyone buys it.

You can watch his video here for free.

http://www.lonelantern.org/cup_of_tea_video.html

Sons of God presentation

Presented by http://www.MichaelsHeiser.com in Roswell New Mexico at the http://www.AncientofDays.net Conferences. Thanks and enjoy.

The point of view presented here is fallen angels in Genesis 6.

Terrorstorm

I bought this video off amazon a few days ago. It is a documentry by journalist Alex Jones. He runs his own radio show.

His main topics of study are the new world order, globalism, government sponsored terror, Illumianti, bohemian grove, 9/11, 7/7 bombings and that sort of stuff.

I have been watching his videos for about a year now on and off. I just started listening to his live radio show on the internet, and vistiting his main website infowars.com. His beliefs are Christian I don't know the specifics but he has said he is a Christian.

He successfully infiltrated a meeting of American elite who burn humans in effigy before a big stone owl called Moloch. Moloch was the chief deity of the Ammonites in the Old Testament. Bohemian Grove

He gathers intel from govenment documents and interviews with people who have gone public. On July 25th 2001 on his radio show he said that the government was planning to use their known CIA asset Bin Laden to commit acts of terror on WTC. You may think this is fake but, he said it on his live radio show thosands of people listen to it and he tapes all his shows in video and audio. Heres the AV. July25th,2006

Recently he has come out with a new video which was orginally released through his website and available for free on google video Terrorstorm. Just recently the video was released on Amazon.com and the video went to #17 in DVD sales rank for all DVDs.

Anyway Like I said I bought this a few days ago, I have watched it a couple times on my computer. If you wish to purchase this for around 12 bucks you can go through my link at the bottom of this post. Alex Jones said himself that he just wants people to see it thats why he released it so cheap and he even says to burn copys and give them to friends.

Terrorstorm: A History of Government Sponsored Terrorism

Who comes with the Lord?

Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Parallel passages; Mark 13:26, Luke 21:27

1Th 2:19 For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming?
1Th 2:20 For ye are our glory and joy.

Paul when writing to the Christian Thessalonians says “ye are our glory and joy”. In the Gospels Jesus says “Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory”. I’m not sure if Paul meant by the glory but maybe he meant the glory described in Matthew.

The Christians we know are in the clouds when the Lord Jesus comes back, but so are the angels, for the angels are stated as coming with the Lord as well

Saints

2Th 1:10 when he comes on that day to be glorified in his saints, and to be marveled at among all who have believed, because our testimony to you was believed.

1Th 4:17 Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.

Here the Son of Man comes with Holy Angels.

Mat 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory.

2Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,

In Jude the Lord Jesus comes with holy ones.

Jud 1:14 It was also about these that Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied, saying, "Behold, the Lord came with ten thousands of his holy ones,
Jud 1:15 to execute judgment on all and to convict all the ungodly of all their deeds of ungodliness that they have committed in such an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things that ungodly sinners have spoken against him."

In Zechariah

Zec 14:5 And you shall flee to the valley of my mountains, for the valley of the mountains shall reach to Azal. And you shall flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the LORD my God will come, and all the holy ones with him.

In Summary

The Lord comes with
1. Power and great glory
2. The saints
3. Holy Angels
4. Mighty Angels
5. Holy Ones

If you look at the meaning of each word you will see they are contadictory and they are similar except power and great glory.

(saint) hag'-ee-os
From ἅγος hagos (an awful thing) compare G53, [H2282]; sacred (physically pure, morally blameless or religious, ceremonially consecrated): - (most) holy (one, thing), saint.

(Angels) ang'-el-os
From ἀγγέλλω aggellō (probably derived from G71; compare G34; to bring tidings); a messenger; especially an “angel”; by implication a pastor: - angel, messenger.

As you can see by definition an angel can be a saint but not necessarily i.e. Satan’s angels are not saints. However the Angels who come with the Lord Jesus are Holy Angels and can even be called saints.

Can Christians be Angels?

Why not. We do not think of our selves as angels, or at least I don’t but in the resurrection when the saints come back there is no reason to say we can not be called angels.

The Lord himself talks about the resurrection and says those who are resurrected are as the angels of God in heaven.

Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

Paul says we must change and we will in a twinkling of an eye.

1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

I wouldn’t rule out the possibility that the Christians of this world and the saints of the Old Testament and the angels who stayed in heaven are all after the resurrection the angels of heaven. As you can see the Bible uses these terms interchangeably when describing those who are with the Lord when he returns in the clouds, yet never uses two descriptions in conjunction which means they are likely the same. I.e. never uses Holy angels and saints in the clouds.

When speaking or writing we don't describe two things that are the same two differnt ways in conjunction. For example if I told you that I was coming to visit you on Saturday and the last day of the week that would just be confusing, because they are actually the same thing. So thats why I say that the fact that they are never described in conjunction but interchagably is because they are probably the same.

Voting and the Law

Are these verses telling us we should not vote?

Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Rom 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

The word power here means ex-oo-see'-ah From G1832 (in the sense of ability); privilege, that is, (subjectively) force, capacity, competency, freedom, or (objectively) mastery (concretely magistrate, superhuman, potentate, token of control), delegated influence: - authority, jurisdiction, liberty, power, right, strength.

From first glance you may think that the higher powers means people. However in the Greek the word used for power does not necessarily mean that. In fact it can be better translated rights or authority. I don't believe these are people and no I don't believe God ordaines heads of government. What I believe God ordaines is our rights our liberties the law of the land.

Rom 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
Rom 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

In our system of government this likley means being subject to the law and the police. The rulers are those who enforce the higher power or the law.

Rom 13:5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

Obey the law so you are not judged, but also for conscience sake.

Rom 13:6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
Rom 13:7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

Do what is required as a citizen giving to whom you must according to the law.

So can we vote?

I believe from these verse God has ordained us the power to vote. The liberties of our land allow us to vote, so I believe it is our God given right to vote or not to vote whatever you wish. There may be other places in scripture that tell us not to vote but from these passages I don't believe we should or should not vote. In a democracy there is no single person who rules over everyone, for our leaders are meant to be servants who themselves are subject to the higher powers or the law.

When Paul says Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers, I don’t believe he means to be subject to President Bush or Harper or your local rep. According to the context and Greek definitions I believe it simply means the highest laws of your area.

If you still don’t think the word powers mean what I said it does.

Here is every place in scripture where this Greek word appears. KJV often translates it power but if you read the verses, right or liberty could be used just as well, and sometimes the KJV chooses to translate this word that way.

exousia

Total KJV Occurrences: 103
power, 61
Mat_9:6, Mat_9:8, Mat_10:1, Mat_28:18, Mar_2:10, Mar_3:15, Mar_6:7, Luk_4:6, Luk_4:32, Luk_5:24, Luk_10:19, Luk_12:5, Luk_22:53, Joh_1:12, Joh_10:18 (2), Joh_17:2, Joh_19:10-11 (3), Act_1:7, Act_5:4, Act_8:19, Act_26:18, Rom_9:21, Rom_13:1-3 (3), 1Co_7:37, 1Co_9:4-6 (3), 1Co_9:12 (2), 1Co_9:18, 1Co_11:10, 2Co_13:10, Eph_1:21, Eph_2:2, Col_1:13, Col_2:10, 2Th_3:9, Rev_2:25-26 (2), Rev_6:8, Rev_9:3 (2), Rev_9:10, Rev_9:19, Rev_11:6 (2), Rev_12:10, Rev_13:4-5 (2), Rev_13:7, Rev_13:12, Rev_14:18, Rev_16:9, Rev_17:12, Rev_18:1, Rev_20:6
authority, 28
Mat_7:29, Mat_8:9, Mat_21:23-24 (3), Mat_21:27, Mar_1:22, Mar_11:27-29 (4), Mar_13:33-34 (2), Luk_4:36, Luk_7:8, Luk_9:1, Luk_19:17, Luk_20:2 (2), Luk_20:8, Luk_20:20, Joh_5:27, Act_9:14, Act_26:10, Act_26:12, 1Co_15:24, 2Co_10:8, Rev_13:2
powers, 8
Luk_12:11, Rom_13:1 (2), Eph_3:10, Eph_6:12, Col_1:16, Col_2:15, Tit_3:1
right, 2
Heb_13:10, Rev_22:14
authorities, 1
1Pe_3:22
jurisdiction, 1
Luk_23:7
liberty, 1
1Co_8:9
strength, 1
Rev_17:13

Freedom to fascism

Just watched an interesting video called freedom to fascism. By Aaron Russo who was a producer for the music industry. He’s got a lot of money and he is really sacrificing his time and money to do something he believes in.

This video touches on the American Federal Reserve. Most people don’t realize it but the Federal Reserve is a private company and they print money illegally and for nothing. This movie goes into the fact that by law no American has to pay an income tax. The only taxes according to the constitution the government is allowed to collect are corporate or expense taxes like on gasoline cigarettes alcohol etc… A persons income is private and is there own the government has no right to take that a way from the individual. Aaron Russo talks about all these people who have been sentenced as criminals for a non-crime. The Supreme Court has stated no law that requires and American to pay taxes the only way they can get the American people to pay taxes is by force through ignorance or intimidation.

Maybe he can get Kent Hovind out of jail for not complying with the IRS.

Mat 22:21 They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.

What are we supposed to do when what Ceasar wants is not Ceasars.

Here’s the video.

Freedom to Fascism

Judge or Judge not?

Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Mat 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

In Matthew 7 we are told not to Judge one another.
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1Co 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
1Co 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
1Co 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

Here we are told to Judge.

So what’s the difference is this a contradiction?

In Matthew 7 Jesus speaks about not judging one another on individual terms. If you read the chapter you will realize that the context is individuals judging one another.

In 1 Corinthians Paul speaks about judging as a collective group. In 1Cor5:12 he states do not ye judge them that are within? If you look who “ye” is in the context it is clearly the local Church.

1Co 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,

So the context is different and the judging is not the same. So we should not judge one another but as a collective group we can judge those in a local Church. Judging here just simply means to make a decision as to what the local Church should do with this person