ACts2/Joel2

Act 2:15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. Act 2:16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; People where mocking the Christians saying they were drunk and Peter stood up and quote Joel explaining who they are.

Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: Act 2:18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: Act 2:19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: Act 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: Act 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. In Joel we have the quoted verses.

Joe 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: Joe 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. Joe 2:30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. Joe 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come. Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call. None of the quoted verses were actually fulfilled that day but Peter quoted this because it describes a panorama of the Church age. If you study the coming of the Lord you will notice that the sun and moon effects are synonymous with his coming which would be the end of the Church age or as some would call the dispensation of grace.

If you analyze Acts 2:21 and Joel 2:32 you will notice Peter only quotes half of the verse. The reason behind that is because the last part did not apply to the Church. When the Lord comes the day of grace will end, no longer can people call on the name of the Lord and be saved. (1 Thessalonians 5:1-3) The word for in “for in

mount
Zion” can be translated several different ways. With the word for one may get the impression that people will not be delivered for this reason in

mount
Zion… The Hebrew word here is kee Stongs H3588 which appears in the Bible 1120 times and is half the time translated because but is also translated to different words that denote exception. It makes more sense that Joel was saying whoever calls upon the Lord and shall be saved will end at his appearing except the remnant of
Israel. Rom 9:27 Esaias also crieth concerning
Israel, Though the number of the children of
Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:

This also parallels Rev 6-7 with the 144,000 being gathered off the earth after the Lords appearing. Isiah 53

Eze 37:23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God. Points of view

This creates some problems for those who hold this as being a pre-tribulation advent. In Revelation we read of those of the gentile nation who come out of the Great Tribulation. Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;Rev 7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? Rev 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

This creates quite a dilemma for the idea of saints being in the tribulation. If the Lord Jesus appears prior to the tribulation all remaining saints get raptured and then only the remnant can be saved. How is it possible that saints of all nations and tongues could come out of Great Tribulation? However if Joel was talking about the normal advent that Jesus talked about then there is no problem.